Applying to Jan board 2013

[youngaviator]

If the Navy is so bent on needing Pilots, why don't they lower the test standards? Not everyone majors in a science. The smart thing to do would be to pull from AD and Reserves. Then you'll have guys and gals with proven track records..but wait, that would be too easy. Take someone with rediculously good LORs from Pilots whom they've served with, and EPs across the board..at the end of the day, if they don't have that ASTB score then everything they've worked for means exactly duff. Maverick wouldn't have been picked up for Pilot in today's Navy. Blame it on the economy if you want, but I've never seen so many recruiting commercials for a Navy that's down-sizing. <Is that even a word? Sorry folks, just venting. Good luck to everyone, and thank goodness for SWO!

I understand where your coming from I was a non-select the only reason me or my recruiter could fine is my low astb score. I am currently in the Air Force good gpa LORs hold my PPL never being in any trouble and all but none of that matters if that astb score isn't up there, but I cant complain. The test is not that hard you just have to study for a month or so and not rush it as I did to make the deadline and do poorly. I seen plenty of 21 years olds with high astb scores get selected and haven't even completed college and have no military experience. It can be frustrating of course, but remember if selected you still have to take much difficult test throughout pilot training.

 

[Chemystery]

To me personally, I believe that earning a commission is a privilege and not a right. Furthermore, the pride of being a Navy Officer should trump whatever job one has in the Navy. Your mileage may vary, but I have found my outlook to be very rewarding and less stressful.

 

[McHale's Navy]

I meant pulling enlisted members from AD and Reserves with proven track records to go Pilot, or at least placing more weight at board. The point here is that the Navy would actually save money on training because they know that these guys and gals are in it for the duration, the long haul. Where we lose money is when after their initial tour members decide to drop the letter. All that money spent on training just went out the window. The ASTB is a single test whose standards have been raised significantly. As for complaining to a forum full of non-priors who want to go Pilot..I hope you all get selected and stay in for 20.

 

[LFCFan]

I meant pulling enlisted members from AD and Reserves with proven track records to go Pilot, or at least placing more weight at board. The point here is that the Navy would actually save money on training because they know that these guys and gals are in it for the duration, the long haul. Where we lose money is when after their initial tour members decide to drop the letter. All that money spent on training just went out the window. The ASTB is a single test whose standards have been raised significantly. As for complaining to a forum full of non-priors who want to go Pilot..I hope you all get selected and stay in for 20.

Ah, giving some preference to priors is a different ball of wax from what I thought you were saying. I have no idea how much weight it is given at a board right now, but I see your point.

Best of luck to you as well!

 

[nombrescreeno]

So when how would we need to have our packages in for the Jan SWO board? I asked my OR but he hasn't even heard anything about there being a board.

Mine hasn't heard anything either. He called the PM but the guy hasn't called him back.

Has anyone else heard about this possible January board from their recruiters?

 

[LFCFan]

Mine hasn't heard anything either. He called the PM but the guy hasn't called him back.

Has anyone else heard about this possible January board from their recruiters?

I was told February by mine, but that was a few weeks ago. I'm not sure if he meant packages were due then or if they met then.

 

[exNavyOffRec]

NavyOffRec,

I talked with my recruiter and I was informed the next pilot board would be March 4th 2013, but the only next board I see on here is July, I was also told there is a large need for pilots. I know my recruiter isn't making up a story just wondering if you heard anything, sounds to good to be true.

"large" is a relative term, yes if you look at all the designators Pilot has the highest number, but they also get a large number of applicants and are on track to make goal, most recruiters never look at numbers that apply, just overall available billets.

http://www.cnrc.navy.mil/publications/NOTICES/FY13 BOARDSKED By Community - Encl 4 - 17Oct13 Rev.pdf

 

[exNavyOffRec]

I was hoping someone else heard the same my recruiter read it from something so it has to be somewhat true I'm hoping anyways. The things is people that applied to this December board will not be able to apply again the board in March if there is one. I wanted to apply for this December board but 6-months from non-select from the last board was not up by 2 weeks.

That is correct IF nothing had changed. It can be as little as retaking the ASTB, that was the standard method I would have someone reapply within 6 months.

 

[exNavyOffRec]

Finally completed my OCS package... It's been a long time coming, but hopefully well worth the hard-work... Good luck to all OCS Applicants who submitted there package for December 3rd 2012 Pilot/NFO/SWO board. There will be some very happy and joyous OCS applicants within the next 3 weeks. As for me:

Active Duty 8 years/31 yrs old
B.S Computer Info. Systems/GPA 3.1/ (Livingstone College May 2004)
ET2(SW/EIDWS)(Electronic Technian)
NEC's : 9502-Instructor (JIT)
1678-ISM(Info. Sys. Maint.)
1424-SRQ-4(Hawklink)
1460-COMSEC
1471-TACAN
OAR 44(No ASTB Too old to fly even with waivers procured)
Strong Evaluations
8 Solid Apprasial Sheet's 2 O-6's, 1 O-5, 3 O-4's, 1 O-3

Applying for the following OCS Boards: IDC(Intel/IW/IP/METOC SWO-IDC OPTIONS) PROBOARD (To pick any remaining FY13 quotas and part of FY14 quotas)
SUPPLY PROBOARD (To pick any remaining FY13 quotas and part of FY14 quotas)

FYI: IDC(Intel/IW/IP/METOC and SWO-IDC OPTIONS) Convene (4 Feb 2013)... Application Submission window (08 Oct 2012- 07 Jan 2013) Application deadline 07-Jan-2013
SUPPLY convenes (just missed new board as of 03 Dec 2012) Next convening (19 Mar 2013)... Application Submission window (Today- 15 Feb 2013) Application deadline 15-Feb-2013

*Youngaviator... New Board for Pilot/NFO/SWO Convene (4-Mar-2013)... Application Submission window (6-Nov-2012 to 1-Feb-2013) Application deadline 1-Feb-2013... This board will
pick any remaining FY13 quotas and part of FY14 quotas. We do need pilots. Good Luck.

Good Luck to all,

R/
ET2(SW/EIDWS) Ward

Your best chance is with IW/Intel, they like AD applicants, anything Metoc historically selects only those with Oceano or Meterology degrees, IP currently has a goal of 0.

 

[nombrescreeno]

"large" is a relative term, yes if you look at all the designators Pilot has the highest number, but they also get a large number of applicants and are on track to make goal, most recruiters never look at numbers that apply, just overall available billets.

http://www.cnrc.navy.mil/publications/NOTICES/FY13 BOARDSKED By Community - Encl 4 - 17Oct13 Rev.pdf

When you say they are on track to make goal, do you mean with the boards scheduled above and the numbers they need for the rest of the FY (barring any major changes), they should reach goals?

My understanding is that a lot of people hear from recruiters that "there's a large demand for pilots" due to high number of billets, and many assume that means the next board's standards are suddenly going to change to bring more people in

 

[exNavyOffRec]

When you say they are on track to make goal, do you mean with the boards scheduled above and the numbers they need for the rest of the FY (barring any major changes), they should reach goals?

My understanding is that a lot of people hear from recruiters that "there's a large demand for pilots" due to high number of billets, and many assume that means the next board's standards are suddenly going to change to bring more people in

Correct.

yes, that is what people like to think, but realistically the boards standard while they do vary a little bit they do not swing with one extreme or another, every once in a while you do get a selection that makes you scratch your head.

 

[nombrescreeno]

Correct.

yes, that is what people like to think, but realistically the boards standard while they do vary a little bit they do not swing with one extreme or another, every once in a while you do get a selection that makes you scratch your head.

Understood. It does seem like with the whole "quality" vs "non-quality" app process and getting pq'd before applying bit that standards are still quite there

 

[JoJoGoHard]

Your best chance is with IW/Intel, they like AD applicants, anything Metoc historically selects only those with Oceano or Meterology degrees, IP currently has a goal of 0.

I appreciate your insight NavyOffRec. For clarity of understanding, you referenced IW/Intel as my best opportunity to get selected, which I totally agree with espcially considering my AD technical background as an ET; however you also mentioned IP having met its goal. Which community are you directly referring to, IP/1820 or SWO-IP Option/11603, because there is a difference. Correct me if I am stating bad gouge, but the scheduled IDC board 4-Feb-2013 will be looking for remaining FY13 and part of FY14 quotas to be met for applicants with SWO/IP Option/11603 correct? SWO/IP Option is my primary choice, however my mindset is that of needs of the Navy. I am flexiable and would gladly accept any designation leading to a commission. I'm easy...

 

[exNavyOffRec]

I appreciate your insight NavyOffRec. For clarity of understanding, you referenced IW/Intel as my best opportunity to get selected, which I totally agree with espcially considering my AD technical background as an ET; however you also mentioned IP having met its goal. Which community are you directly referring to, IP/1820 or SWO-IP Option/11603, because there is a difference. Correct me if I am stating bad gouge, but the scheduled IDC board 4-Feb-2013 will be looking for remaining FY13 and part of FY14 quotas to be met for applicants with SWO/IP Option/11603 correct? SWO/IP Option is my primary choice, however my mindset is that of needs of the Navy. I am flexiable and would gladly accept any designation leading to a commission. I'm easy...

What I was referring to is straight IP, SWO/IP has I believe one (maybe 2) spot(s) left for FY13, they are normally in single digits anyway (average 4 per year), since they don't have FY14 goals they will probably select about 6 to make sure they cover this years goal as well as part of next, but in one of my other post I mentioned the IDC community is bad at following numbers at the selection boards, that is why I have seen guys wait nearly 2 years to go to OCS, out of all the IDC designators Intel and IW historically have the largest number, but are still tiny compared to the others, Intel has continually dropped though as has IW and IP.

 

[JoJoGoHard]

Definitely some good gouge here NavyOffRec. Once the IDC board convenes, what mitigating factors, if any will determine if an applicant is selected for the straight IDC(Intel/IW/IP/METOC) versus being selected for the SWO-IDC Options(IW/IP/ED/METOC). Selections take place during the same boards, but are essentially different programs. Secondly, what is your assessment of the Suppy Corps establishing 3 new boards for this FY? Is the SC having difficulties meeting quotas with "quality" applicants?