Mainly, people in leadership positions who know you, your character, work habits, potential leadership skills, etc. well, like Professors, Employment Managers/Supervisors, Boy Scout Leaders, HS/College Coachs, Military Leaders. High ranking Officers are fine (if they indicate in the letter that they are somewhat familiar with you). A glowing LOR from a civilian supervisor or a Military E-7/O-2, you have worked for... probably would carry more weight than a standard "ho hum" form letter from a O-5/6+! Don't become over-awed by the prospect of LORs from high ranking Military or Civilians, it all depends on what they write.
EDIT- I'd advise against LORs from high ranking Politicians these days - would do more harm than good... casting doubts upon your good judgment!
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What about non-priors? In a previous post someone listed 3 categories: AD, non-AD, and non-prior. So I am assuming that non-AD means reserve / guard, or finished with enlistment, is this correct?To make sure everyone understands AD requires interviews for the designator they are applying for, non AD requires only LOR in most cases, exceptions are SEAL/EOD/CEC and soon to be Supply (I think I listed all of them).
From what I understand non-ad refers to anyone not active duty, including members of the Reserves. The requirements for applying is the same for both civilians and ReservistsWhat about non-priors? In a previous post someone listed 3 categories: AD, non-AD, and non-prior. So I am assuming that non-AD means reserve / guard, or finished with enlistment, is this correct?
From what I understand non-ad refers to anyone not active duty, including members of the Reserves. The requirements for applying is the same for both civilians and Reservists
In that case, for non-prior / non-AD, is the interview optional or just not available at all? If it is optional, then would it be advantageous to do it? I am going to apply for the SNA / NFO communities. But I would like to start preparing ahead of time, depending on what's best.To make sure everyone understands AD requires interviews for the designator they are applying for, non AD requires only LOR in most cases, exceptions are SEAL/EOD/CEC and soon to be Supply (I think I listed all of them).
In that case, for non-prior / non-AD, is the interview optional or just not available at all? If it is optional, then would it be advantageous to do it? I am going to apply for the SNA / NFO communities. But I would like to start preparing ahead of time, depending on what's best.
That's a tough question, better addressed by NavyOffRec. I have seen the GPA minimum of 3.o bandied about here lately, yet I also see cases where GPAs in the 2.8/2.9 were selected. It seems to me that boards are given some discretion in weighting lower GPAs vs high ASTB scores. It's kind of like a "what are my chances" question, tough to predict exactly what any given board will do. One thing I know for sure... if you really want it, whip up your very BEST package & submit it on time. That, and try hard to improve your GPA in the classes you have remaining and bullseye the ASTB.In general, do you think a 2.8 in an engineering major combined with very good ASTB scores would be competitive for OCS?
Appreciate that, although we often address serious questions/subjects on the AW website, occasional bits of "ready room humour" along the way, helps keep everyone on an even keel.Btw I was reading through the forums and you have some hilarious posts up. Thanks for the good laugh.
What about non-priors? In a previous post someone listed 3 categories: AD, non-AD, and non-prior. So I am assuming that non-AD means reserve / guard, or finished with enlistment, is this correct?
Thanks for the info. I know a couple of professors that somewhat like me for going the "extra mile" in their classes. If there is no interview for non-prior, and I'll have to ask NavyOffRec about this, then my LOR's are really important. I know I was already advised to take the approach to just do my best in everything. But with LORs, I will have to establish good points of contact. Perhaps retake the same professors for the next level of classes, if they teach them. In general, do you think a 2.8 in an engineering major combined with very good ASTB scores would be competitive for OCS?
Btw I was reading through the forums and you have some hilarious posts up. Thanks for the good laugh.
Competitive no, but if you get a high ASTB will you have a chance yes.
In general, do you think a 2.8 in an engineering major combined with very good ASTB scores would be competitive for OCS?
I submitted four LORs, but the retired SWO was the only one with military experience (other three were past bosses/professors). I actually applied to SNA, SWO, and NFO. Apparently I didn't need a NFO interview to submit that designation. It went through with no problems; in fact, my OR said a lot of NFO selects didn't apply for NFO but rather as SNA and caught the eye of the board as a better NFO candidate for one reason or another.Did you only submit 1 LOR? Are you AD, non-AD, or non-prior? Once they call you for the interview, does that mean you are basically in as long as you pass the interview? I'm guessing you applied for SNA since you were interviewed by a P-3 pilot.