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Agree. When discussing best ways to spend public education dollars, I think guys like this deserve a lot more recognition and support.
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From what I've seen, there are people on the pro-voucher side who argue they should be able to control where their share of taxes get spent. To me, it would be as if bc I don't use that highway or bridge on the other side of town, I shouldn't have my sales and property taxes go towards it.
I'm guessing a lot private school tuitions are about to inflate bc of this voucher money. Just my opinion.
That's the other problem of the voucher argument- by increasing demand for private schools, you move up the demand curve, increasing price. It's similar to what we have seen from the "everyone must go to college!" movement that has caused college education costs to spiral out of control, well beyond inflation.
Public schools serve an incredibly important purpose in our society. I agree with the points of reducing administrative burdens and increasing teacher pay (which is criminally low). I don't agree that deleting the DOEd is the way to do that. Scalpel, not chainsaw.
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The drastic increase in 4-year university tuition costs was, in large part, due to a significant decrease in state funding for higher education across the nation in most states in the 00s. Since 2014 or so, the per year increase of public university tuition is in-line with inflation.
Today, many universities, public and private, are facing dire financial straits due to low enrollment.
As for teacher salary - that's a highly localized issue.
I would argue that vouchers don't merely move consumers up the demand curve, but rather shift the entire demand curve out to the right.
number9, economics tragic
You're more than welcome to join me every week when I volunteer to drive around town delivering food-bank donated bags of groceries to what are generously characterized as "houses" where a lot of the kids in my district live. It's a small district, very small, less than 3,000 kids, and more than a 1/3 of them qualify for meal assistance. The residences I'm delivering groceries to are not choosing Applebees over fresh vegetables. They're choosing between gas, utilities, insurance, and groceries. Again, hit me up, fly yourself here, and I'll sign you up for a shift.Sorry, but I'm waiving the bullshit flag on this one.
One of the largest problems facing low-income families is obesity.
Childhood Obesity: Is the Built Environment More Important Than the Food Environment? - PMC
Obesity continues to be a health burden to society and new efforts may be needed to combat this epidemic. This study aims to investigate the contribution of parents education and level of income, food environment (grocery stores and fast food ...pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
In the vast majority of cases, the parents can afford to send the children to school with lunch - they just choose not to. Note that I have no inherent issue with universal school lunch if for no other reason than convenience, but the Puss 'n Boots' wide-eyed alligator tear approach is just a cash grab.
As for special education... principals often have their hands full with every Tom and Jane who wants their child classified as special ed the moment they have a modicum of academic or behavioral challenges. So much so that it created military recruiting shortfalls until we changed the rules regarding past mental disorder diagnoses.
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robav8r
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You are a saint for doing this. God bless you . . . .
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robav8r
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Come on Brett, this doesn't even come close to the COVID-19 thread a few years ago . . . .
I support public education. Yep, the public system that is producing more poorly educated kids every year. So I pay my taxes every year even though I am an empty nester for a long time now. But our K-12 public system is not producing the best citizens for a modern functioning society. And it isn't just about money. My children went to the local HS, one of the very best public high schools in the state, better than all but a couple private schools. In terms of test scores graduation rates college matriculation and any other metric it ranked tops. Other high schools in the same school district failed to perform anywhere near as well. They also got similar funding from the state as piss poor high schools. I support public education, just not crappy public education. Even though my children's public education was very good, on balance across the country the system is failing way too many students. If we currently have a 2 tier education system, thank God for the top tier or many more American youth would be getting short changed. With fewer graduates ready for a top university education in a challenging program. I would like to see more ways to make an existing better school or system available to more children.
It was just another example of "subsidy" in education. In that case though most Americans tolerate it
Two thoughts...
First, quality of schools directly impact property values. Ask any Real Estate agent. His contribution adds to the value of his property. Important when it is time to sell or pass down as inheritance.
Second, his money is helping to train up future taxpayers, cops, firefighters, soldiers, trashmen, cooks, and all the other people that he depends on directly and indirectly, out front and behind the scenes. Did I mention training future taxpayers?
Look at the societies where the rate of having kids is way below replacement rate (Japan, South Korea). They are failing, and failing before the old people die. Everyone suffers.