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July 2013 and/or Rolling Board
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AughtaRotate
Glorified Bus Driver
Scratch that I had five actually. And that would be a pain to be required to have that many.
jg54170
OCS JAN12th
I didn't throw much in term of LOR's in there. I had 5 appraisals done (1 O-5 and 4 O-3's) which I think are different than you non active duty folks. The only LOR I included was from my DIVO who is actually an OR, it had a great write up. All the o-3 appraisals came from my OIC's and AOIC's that I deployed to Iraq with, the O-5 came from my old XO who had given me stellar recommendations for STA-21 before I was NPQ'd for flight duty. This does not include my CO who is also an O-5, his recommendation is required for the package. IF there is a next time I am going to try to track down my old CO (CAPT) who blessed my STA-21 packages as well, he was deployed this time around.
GISpirate12
FS SNFO OCS
Take it from a guy who used to weigh 256 lbs, and was at 38% body fat... You CAN lose that weight, because you have PLENTY of time on your hands. And just when you think you've gotten to where you've wanted to get your body, KEEP FREAKING GOING!!!!!! Keep up the good work, and listen to these guys' advice because that type of stuff drastically helped me out.
I keep my fridge stock piled full of LEAN meat.... Pork chops, chicken breast, etc...
Hey I know it's late but congrats on swearing in!
My OR had me get one from each of the employers I put down in my SF86, which turned out to be 6 iirc. Everything I've seen has said employer LORs hold up a lot better for non-prior duty/AD guys and to leave the high ranking officers/politicians out unless they have a personal relationship to you.
exNavyOffRec
Well-Known Member
I am guessing his high ASTB had more to do with it, I had an applicant who's immediate family included active and retired USN O-6's, O-7's, and O-9's all wrote LOR's and this person is still a civilian, aviation is the only forgiving field.
Re: LORs. Many applicants here dont't seem to realize that:
1. It's not the number of LORs in the kit, but the quality of the write ups.
2. The military rank/position of writer carries more weight when they indicate that they KNOW YOU, and are well aware of your capabilities & character (former CO/XO/DivOs, CMC, DivCPO/POs).
3. Quality LORs also include your former Teachers, Professors, Managers, Supervisors, Scout Troop Leaders, your Religious Leader/s.
4. 3-5 quality LORs is more than sufficient; however, you can submit more if you like.
5. If you feel OK about your LORs, don't feel that you are less competitive with those who submit more than you.
6. With a ~15% approval rate these days, personally.. I'd stay away from a LOR from a pol, just sayin'!
7. Review item 1. above, it's key!
BzB
1. It's not the number of LORs in the kit, but the quality of the write ups.
2. The military rank/position of writer carries more weight when they indicate that they KNOW YOU, and are well aware of your capabilities & character (former CO/XO/DivOs, CMC, DivCPO/POs).
3. Quality LORs also include your former Teachers, Professors, Managers, Supervisors, Scout Troop Leaders, your Religious Leader/s.
4. 3-5 quality LORs is more than sufficient; however, you can submit more if you like.
5. If you feel OK about your LORs, don't feel that you are less competitive with those who submit more than you.
6. With a ~15% approval rate these days, personally.. I'd stay away from a LOR from a pol, just sayin'!
7. Review item 1. above, it's key!
BzB
exNavyOffRec
Well-Known Member
well said
AughtaRotate
Glorified Bus Driver
Fair enough. My OR didn't give me a huge amount of gouge about the weight of certain types of LORs for my particular background, so I got what I felt would be strong. Both of the prior military were old family connections, so they were good character references I believe. I'll find out one way or another soon enough.
AughtaRotate
Glorified Bus Driver
Thanks BzB it can be easy to get wrapped up in if I'm measuring up to other people around here, but when it comes down to it you can only worry about your own package. I'm feeling confident and so is my recruiter, so Im trying not to stress over it too much. It's out of our hands at this point anyways.
Bam Bam
FTS AMDO
Congrats on your weight loss! I too was a bit pudgy! I was stationed in Germany for almost 3 years (as a GS civil servant) so the schnitzel and hefewisen got the best of me! I've lost 1/3 of my body weight by eating lean meats and lots of fresh veggies and fruits. I also run 20-30 miles a week and I'm training for my first full marathon. The key is to have a set goal and go for it! If you want it bad enough then you will do everything in your power to succeed. I'm finally realizing my dream of commissioning after 14 years of enlisted service and I'm striving to get an excellent on my PRT.
You can do it!
GISpirate12
FS SNFO OCS
Thanks a lot man I appreciate it!! I expect to hear good news coming out of this forum SOON. I look forward to meeting some more classmates!!
Thanks for the congrats!! It's really simple to get to having a love for working out and becoming a gym rat. The way I look at things now, is "hmm, would a DI allow my fat self to eat this while at OCS?" (Whether it be a snickers bar (my personal freakin favorite) or some Oreos dunked in skim milk....ahhhh). Then, I just put it back because I know that crap will add the weight on me again. Just keep going after it. Luckily, and some may disagree with me, but I have CrossFit on my side, and its my personal fat loss regimen go-to. Now, with that being said, NOT EVERYBODY does CrossFit and does just fine.
Keep up the great work, and best of luck to everyone tomorrow if you do in fact hear something tomorrow.
Maturin90
I have not yet begun to fight.
With regard to the weight/fitness issue, my father and family friends have told me that there is one thing in the military you can always be in control of and that is your personal fitness. Don't make excuses why you can't ( time restrictions, etc.). There is always time to run a mile or do push-ups and sit-ups.
With regard to the LORs, I was very social with my professors and was even invited to family dinners or to be a teaching assistant and the majority of my letters are from them. Another is from my research mentor who I am still close friends with, a letter from an o-5 who has been a close family friend as far as I can remember and an employer from a lab I worked in. I realize with out extra information my statement about having nine may have seemed like I was paying attention only to the numbers and not the quality.
With regard to the LORs, I was very social with my professors and was even invited to family dinners or to be a teaching assistant and the majority of my letters are from them. Another is from my research mentor who I am still close friends with, a letter from an o-5 who has been a close family friend as far as I can remember and an employer from a lab I worked in. I realize with out extra information my statement about having nine may have seemed like I was paying attention only to the numbers and not the quality.
Re: LORs. Many applicants here dont't seem to realize that:
1. It's not the number of LORs in the kit, but the quality of the write ups.
2. The military rank/position of writer carries more weight when they indicate that they KNOW YOU, and are well aware of your capabilities & character (former CO/XO/DivOs, CMC, DivCPO/POs).
3. Quality LORs also include your former Teachers, Professors, Managers, Supervisors, Scout Troop Leaders, your Religious Leader/s.
4. 3-5 quality LORs is more than sufficient; however, you can submit more if you like.
5. If you feel OK about your LORs, don't feel that you are less competitive with those who submit more than you.
6. With a ~15% approval rate these days, personally.. I'd stay away from a LOR from a pol, just sayin'!
7. Review item 1. above, it's key!
BzB
They require LORs from all previous employers in the last 3 years. That is why I had so many.