Roger Ball, good and not-so-good questions about the world of "Paddles"

[Recovering LSO]

I think a lot of this came from the Prowler - S-3 mishap on Big E back in '99(?). When something get screwed up that badly, there's bound to be "change".

The intent is (IMO) not to provide metrics to measure, and potentially hang someone, but instead to give guys a rough number to hang their hats on when trying to decided how far in to bring a guy. If its 10' (and that's really just a name, does it really end up being 10'? not really, usually more), it gives me, as the dude in charge up there, an idea of how much longer I can give the gear dogs to get the gear set. If its 100', I also know that my patience for the yellow shirt who just decided to re-spot a jet across the LA is going to be quite low.

 

[A4sForever]

+ some ... always good stuff outta' you -- I enjoy the LSO-speak discussions.

Now where's 'Nose' when we need him to round out this LSO 'hat trick'???

 

[Nose]

You're correct that the jet appears to be inside of any reasonable wave off window. But remember, this (presumably a nugget) guy was told to watch the port foul line - he's watching the port foul line

To the windows. 10' means that no part of the aircraft should come within ten feet of the ship. 100' - no part within one hundred feet of the ship. 100' window will be used if there are men/equipment in the LA. 10' window is used if we're waiting on a gear setting (for example). It works well and it safe.

I'm pretty sure it is 100' over the highest obstacle in the Landing Area.

 

[Recovering LSO]

Yes sir. 100' over highest obstacle. I suppose my initial explanation could have been taken to mean no closer than 100' from the highest point of the super structure Obviously, not what I meant. Thanks.

Cheers.

 

[FrankTheTank]

I think a lot of this came from the Prowler - S-3 mishap on Big E back in '99(?). When something get screwed up that badly, there's bound to be "change".

Saw it live... Had just gotten down from FDC after the Hot-Switch.. First day of cruise 1998

 

[A4sForever]

.....

Who is this individual ... ???

 

[Alpha_Echo_606]

ATLANTIC OCEAN (May 19, 2010) Landing signal officers aboard the aircraft carrier USS George H.W. Bush (CVN 77) watch a landing E-2C Hawkeye assigned to Carrier Airborne Early Warning Squadron (VAW) 124. George H.W. Bush is underway in the Atlantic Ocean. (U.S. Navy photo by Mass Communication Specialist 3rd Class Brent Thacker/Released)
100519-N-7908T-196

 

[scoolbubba]

Is there a list of LSO acronyms and phrases for the unwashed floating around here somewhere?

 

[Recovering LSO]

I'll dig one up for you, but you can start with this one - "easy with it" means, land the f'ing airplane, we're hungry and want to be done watching you make pretty sparks all night up the LA.

 

[A4sForever]

.... you would have had fun waving on CV-41....the back-end usually had a squirrelly, figure-eight up-and-down and side-to-side movement. It would drive you nuts until you got used to it. :bigeyes2_

I dunno ... I saw her tied up @ ALAVA Pier one fine day and I initially thought she had been torpedo'd by a left-over WW2 Jap midget sub, as she appeared to be sinking w/ her permanent port list & all ... ... then I almost got sea-sick just watching, just lookin' ... so I went up the hill & had a drink. Or two ... Or three ...

Probably. But going on liberty together and the telling of lies would have been fun.
And maybe you could have helped me carry my heavy parachute bag.

Going on LIB's and swapping lies would have been GREAT -- and it still would be -- but in the ol' days, it always was a 'treat' to RDVS in town when we deigned to 'allow' a Fighter-Puke or two 'talk' to us with their hands ... ... but why the parachute bag??

Perchance to carry all your FITRON baggage, broken dreams and semi-bullshit 'there I was' stories ??? Perchance to dream ... ??? :icon_lol::icon_lol::icon_lol::icon_boun

I think I just cracked a rib ...

 

[Catmando]

... Going on LIB's and swapping lies would have been GREAT -- and it still would be -- but in the ol' days, it always was a 'treat' to RDVS in town when we deigned to 'allow' a Fighter-Puke or two 'talk' to us with their hands ... ... but why the parachute bag??

Perchance to carry all your FITRON baggage, broken dreams and semi-bullshit 'there I was' stories ??? Perchance to dream ... ??? :icon_lol::icon_lol::icon_lol::icon_boun

I think I just cracked a rib ...

Talking with both hands was a real art, something neither done nor appreciated by lowly attack pukes.

With experience, you could bend your fingers slightly backwards, simulating the number of Gs your hand was pulling. Likewise the degree of shaking tremors of the hand could simulate light to heavy buffet. Spreading the pinky and the thumb simulated a rapid decel and speedbrakes. With the correct hand vibration along with making some staccato tsh-tsh--tsh-tsh sounds simulated a good guns kill quite nicely. And while the hands had far better turn rates and tighter turn radii than any aircraft, they couldn't still simulate a rolling scissors without nearly breaking a wrist. (maybe that's why they started putting model aircraft on sticks)


There I was, sweat pouring down... pipper on the bandit... pressing in for the kill...

 

[A4sForever]

Talking with both hands was a real art, something neither done nor appreciated by lowly attack pukes....

Oh, yeah ??... OH, YEAH ???... OH, YEAH ... ???!!!!

You sorry, sorry Fighter-Puke, you ... )). Why do you think I SELRES-transitioned & became a so-called 'fighter' pilot ... and even graduated from TOPGUN ??? It was ONLY to learn to 'talk' w/ my hands. And I became a Rembrandt ... a Picasso ... if you will.

Prior to that, I had only done shameful, disgusting, and personally humiliating things w/ my hands ...

 

[Catmando]

Oh, yeah ??... OH, YEAH ???... OH, YEAH ... ???!!!!

You sorry, sorry Fighter-Puke, you ... )). Why do you think I SELRES-transitioned & became a so-called 'fighter' pilot ... and even graduated from TOPGUN ??? It was ONLY to learn to 'talk' w/ my hands. And I became a Rembrandt ... a Picasso ... if you will.

Prior to that, I had only done shameful, disgusting, and personally humiliating things w/ my hands ...

YEAH! Shall we step outside and settle this? Or should we just go down to the Cat-Room and carry on with our salty lies?

Arguing with attack-pukes was easy. Those grapes! But quickly I leaned to never argue with an LSO, even if they were wrong about 10% of the time.

Perhaps you did become an "arteeeeste" with you hands. But I think the rest is TMI... except for the "humiliated" part, that is.

 

[A4sForever]

YEAH! Shall we step outside and settle this? Or should we just go down to the Cat-Room and carry on with our salty lies?

... I leaned to never argue with an LSO...

YEAH!Let's get it ON ... a.k.a., let's step sideways, instead, and go to the CAT-Room ...

Oh, bartender ... BARTENDER ... OH, BOY !!! Two San Miguels, por favor. MABUHAY !!

The CUBI CAT-Room: truth, justice, & the American way ... WESTPAC-style.

And mebbe a few slots on the way back up ... ???

And WHOMEVER taught you to NEVER ARGUE W/ THE LSO was a genius, pure genius ... and had your best interests at heart.

Which might have been why I became one ... an LSO, that is ... just to overcome my 'humble' ATTACK-BUBBA beginnings ... ????

 

[Kaman]

I sure do miss the Navy...and, I am saying that with all sincerity. Flying in the airlines (regional SAAB 340 pilot) has been more often like "work" than "fun".